The Pig likes it

June 19, 2017

Blogger Andrew Klavan argues that the interruption of Shakespeare in the Park’s anti-Trump “Julius Caesar” by rightwing activists was “wrong in every way.” It’s garnered some support from conservatives who are sick of being the left’s punching bag and think it was just giving them a taste of the own medicine by using their disruptive tactics against them. But Klavan argues that the protesters interfered with the leftist producers’ free speech rights, just as campus protesters do to conservative speakers. Klavan isn’t opposed to conservatives defending themselves against liberal attacks, but he argues that conservatives are supposed to defend free speech. If we shout it down, then we’re betraying our own principles. Read the entire thing at the link, and then feel free to give your opinion in the comments.

Granted, it’s tempting to lower your high ideals at least a little, particularly when the other side has sunk sooooo low. And one can’t help but be a bit amused at the booing of the crowd, upset that a classic play that had been perverted to make a cheap political point was interrupted by people making a political point -- particularly when the same liberal New York theater crowd had cheered the cast of “Hamilton” for hectoring the Vice President from the stage with their own political opinions. You have to expect that if you take off the gloves and start hitting your opponent with a baseball bat, at some point, he’ll stop following the Marquis of Queensbury rules and fight dirty back.

But personally, I believe in the principle of “I may not agree with what you say, but I’ll defend your right to say it – and then argue with you about it.” I also believe in the old saying: “Never wrestle with a pig. You just end up covered with mud, and the pig likes it.”

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Comments 1-5 of 20

  • William McNeil

    06/27/2017 08:00 PM

    I am just now reading this and agree. However, as I have also heard that Trump can't get congress to pass a health care law but they can go on vacation. Give me a break. The Dems may be guilty of the lies of commission, but because of their inaction, the GOP is almost as bad with their lies of omission. When will we get politicians who care more about the people they represent instead of only themselves. Compromising appears to be "dead".

  • Patti Sharpe

    06/23/2017 07:16 PM

    I'm so tired of the obvious liberal bias in most of the places I get my news that I can't hardly watch or listen to it any more. I'm fed up with the political nonsense that has taken the place of real governance and being treated like an mute, ignorant money well. I'm disgusted that common sense has become so uncommon that half our nation re-elected President Obama's policies and tried to re-institute them by electing Mrs. Clinton.

    That being said, it's entirely possible that the Julius Caesar play is yet one more bad-taste attack on President Trump. But if you digest the entire play, it may also be possible that it is actually a commentary on what would happen if everybody who SAYS stupid stuff about getting rid of the president through violence actually got their way. What would become of a nation who thought it was a good idea to solve their problems this way?

    "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked. Who can know it?" Cain didn't need a play to convince him to kill Abel. It was in his heart. Those with a right heart, liberal or conservative, aren't going to be swayed by this play. And those with a wrong heart will just find someone else to blame if we stop it.

  • Paul Yoder

    06/23/2017 10:05 AM

    I will defend your right to speak, but that does NOT negate MY right to speak in opposition. If your speech is offensive, as this clearly is, I have the RIGHT to speak loudly in opposition. We as Conservatives must not be silent and by doing so tacitly accept their venomous actions.

  • Helen Feldman

    06/21/2017 06:50 AM

    I remember a time, not so long ago, when free speech did very well with civility at its core. I would not give my life to defend current "free speech". I prefer not to be a witness to it!

  • Dale Tuley

    06/20/2017 09:43 PM

    "... and the pig likes it."
    Excellent point. Sometimes a reminder of good ol' country wisdom is needed.

The Pig likes it

June 19, 2017

Blogger Andrew Klavan argues that the interruption of Shakespeare in the Park’s anti-Trump “Julius Caesar” by rightwing activists was “wrong in every way.” It’s garnered some support from conservatives who are sick of being the left’s punching bag and think it was just giving them a taste of the own medicine by using their disruptive tactics against them. But Klavan argues that the protesters interfered with the leftist producers’ free speech rights, just as campus protesters do to conservative speakers. Klavan isn’t opposed to conservatives defending themselves against liberal attacks, but he argues that conservatives are supposed to defend free speech. If we shout it down, then we’re betraying our own principles. Read the entire thing at the link, and then feel free to give your opinion in the comments.

Granted, it’s tempting to lower your high ideals at least a little, particularly when the other side has sunk sooooo low. And one can’t help but be a bit amused at the booing of the crowd, upset that a classic play that had been perverted to make a cheap political point was interrupted by people making a political point -- particularly when the same liberal New York theater crowd had cheered the cast of “Hamilton” for hectoring the Vice President from the stage with their own political opinions. You have to expect that if you take off the gloves and start hitting your opponent with a baseball bat, at some point, he’ll stop following the Marquis of Queensbury rules and fight dirty back.

But personally, I believe in the principle of “I may not agree with what you say, but I’ll defend your right to say it – and then argue with you about it.” I also believe in the old saying: “Never wrestle with a pig. You just end up covered with mud, and the pig likes it.”

READ MORE.  

Comments 1-5 of 20

  • William McNeil

    06/27/2017 08:00 PM

    I am just now reading this and agree. However, as I have also heard that Trump can't get congress to pass a health care law but they can go on vacation. Give me a break. The Dems may be guilty of the lies of commission, but because of their inaction, the GOP is almost as bad with their lies of omission. When will we get politicians who care more about the people they represent instead of only themselves. Compromising appears to be "dead".

  • Patti Sharpe

    06/23/2017 07:16 PM

    I'm so tired of the obvious liberal bias in most of the places I get my news that I can't hardly watch or listen to it any more. I'm fed up with the political nonsense that has taken the place of real governance and being treated like an mute, ignorant money well. I'm disgusted that common sense has become so uncommon that half our nation re-elected President Obama's policies and tried to re-institute them by electing Mrs. Clinton.

    That being said, it's entirely possible that the Julius Caesar play is yet one more bad-taste attack on President Trump. But if you digest the entire play, it may also be possible that it is actually a commentary on what would happen if everybody who SAYS stupid stuff about getting rid of the president through violence actually got their way. What would become of a nation who thought it was a good idea to solve their problems this way?

    "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked. Who can know it?" Cain didn't need a play to convince him to kill Abel. It was in his heart. Those with a right heart, liberal or conservative, aren't going to be swayed by this play. And those with a wrong heart will just find someone else to blame if we stop it.

  • Paul Yoder

    06/23/2017 10:05 AM

    I will defend your right to speak, but that does NOT negate MY right to speak in opposition. If your speech is offensive, as this clearly is, I have the RIGHT to speak loudly in opposition. We as Conservatives must not be silent and by doing so tacitly accept their venomous actions.

  • Helen Feldman

    06/21/2017 06:50 AM

    I remember a time, not so long ago, when free speech did very well with civility at its core. I would not give my life to defend current "free speech". I prefer not to be a witness to it!

  • Dale Tuley

    06/20/2017 09:43 PM

    "... and the pig likes it."
    Excellent point. Sometimes a reminder of good ol' country wisdom is needed.