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July 15, 2022
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In yesterday’s J6 committee hearing update, I told you about THE NEW YORK TIMES’ odd story on Ray Epps, which painted him as a victim of right-wing conspiracy theorists. Epps says he plans to sue those who’ve accused him of working undercover for the FBI to encourage Trump supporters to “go inside the Capitol.”
Tucker Carlson has repeatedly reported on the Ray Epps suspicions, and he fought back against the NYT story Thursday evening. Apparently, Tucker said, in all the time the NYT reporter spent with Epps (a whole day), he was never asked what he meant to accomplish by telling the crowd to go into the building. “It’s all very strange,” Tucker said. “THE NEW YORK TIMES has mounted a propaganda campaign on behalf of a self-described Trump voter insurrectionist.” What’s going on here?

“It’s almost like they’re trying to cover something up,” he said.

Tucker found it interesting that the NYT specifically includes this: “Mr. Epps also said he regretted sending a text to his nephew, well after the violence had erupted, in which he discussed how he helped to orchestrate the movements of people who were leaving Mr. Trump’s speech near the White House by pointing them in the direction of the Capitol.”  He theorizes that since we’ve heard nothing at all till now about this particular text, the main purpose of the NYT piece might have been to “drop that little bomblet at the end in the least damaging way.”

Also, the piece fails to mention whether Epps had any contacts with any federal agencies in the period leading up to the rally. Why wouldn’t the NYT ask him about that?

But the article does tell us that Epps might be in mortal danger from Mexican drug cartels. Talk about a non sequitur; how are Mexican drug cartels involved in the story of January 6?

Darren Beattie of REVOLVER NEWS, who has done outstanding reporting on January 6, pointed out that “in the entire piece, there is no blanket, explicit denial on the part of Epps to have been associated with any intelligence group, DHS, JTTF [Joint Terrorism Task Force], military intelligence, so forth. [He] just reiterates his very legal denial of being involved with law enforcement.” Also, “the piece describes Epps as a Trump supporter...on a last-minute thing with his son to attend Trump’s speech on election fraud. The only thing is, Epps didn’t attend the speech. Epps travels all the way from Arizona to DC, this big Trump supporter, and he doesn’t even attend the speech?”

No, he “fixates on this bizarre mission to get everyone to go into the Capitol?” And he happens to be “hanging out right by the initial breach point...before the Proud Boys even get there?”

The piece also doesn’t discuss how Epps got this idea. “Here’s the one person calling for everyone to go in,” and the NYT doesn't ask him that. Did he come up with it himself after he got there? Did someone tell him to do it?

Epps’ behavior was “so egregious,” Beattie said, that he was in the top 20 on the FBI Most Wanted list and even featured in a NYT documentary on January 6. “And now, he’s unarrested, unindicted, and he’s the only January 6 rioter about whom Adam Kinzinger has nice things to say and THE NEW YORK TIMES is writing puff pieces about.”

We still need to know about the roles played by law enforcement, intelligence and the military on that day and the days leading up to it. “When they won’t answer a question and call you names for asking it, maybe there’s something there,” Tucker concluded.

Of course, as we reported yesterday, Adam Schiff is doing his best to keep the next Congress --- almost certainly destined to be GOP-led --- from looking into questions like that.

Article after article is parroting what the NYT reported about Epps. They use the phrase “unfounded conspiracy theory” to describe suspicions about him. “Baseless” is another popular adjective, which is used here just as reflexively as it is in articles on election fraud (another issue for which suspicions are not, in reality, baseless). Here’s one example:

https://www.mediaite.com/news/ray-epps-forced-into-hiding-by-tucker-carlsons-jan-6-conspiracy-theories-breaks-silence-all-of-this-has-just-been-hell/

Here’s another:

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-supporter-ray-epps-january-6-conspiracy-theory-ruined-life-2022-7

If you have a strong stomach and the time and inclination to read these, you’ll see that Tucker is right about the big questions regarding Epps’ behavior not being asked. I’m in no way defending the harassment and death threats Epps says he’s received, but, really, why WASN’T he arrested and charged for doing the same thing (and more) that got others locked up without bail? Why WAS he dropped from the FBI Most Wanted list? BUSINESS INSIDER simply says that “the FBI has not publicly commented on allegations that Epps was working with them or why he was not charged.”
Epps was caught on camera blatantly encouraging what the left condemns as “insurrectionist” behavior. The fact that he wasn’t arrested and jailed and treated with the same lack of due process as others were who did much less --- Brandon Straka, who also never entered the Capitol and was much more peaceful, comes to mind --- makes no sense. So my guess is that some piece of information is missing. Whether or not Epps was working with the feds, something about this story smells off.
The NYT ran an earlier piece on Epps, in May, reporting that during discovery for some of those protesters who, unlike Epps, were actually facing charges, some recordings of interviews were found to support the claim that he tried to calm another protester before that person confronted cops at the barricades and effectively triggered the breach.  He's said to have whispered to the man, Ryan Samsel, something like, "Dude, relax; the cops are doing their job," not encouraging him to riot as has been alleged.
This detail, even if true, still doesn't tell us why Epps was so insistent the night before that protesters go inside the building and why law enforcement took such an uncharacteristic hands-off approach with him.

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  • Patrick Barrett

    07/15/2022 12:10 PM

    we have many of the puzzle parts laying on the table. Epps says "go inside". video of Capitol Police waving the rally visitors into the doors and pointing where to go. the 5 white busses full of camo rioters with MAGA hats filing into the doors. Then when the real maga people go in, they are grabbed by Cap Police and beaten, kicked and knocked to the floor, or shot by the only gun by a police officer that was absolved of any crime. all the time trump said, "Be Nice". Hmmm Maybe, when red wave arrives, we can authorize waterboarding and getting his REAL story out of him!

  • Jan Perry

    07/15/2022 12:02 PM

    There are so many questions regarding Ray Epps. It’s time to bring him in for questioning and make it public. The January 6th hearings are a joke.

  • Cindy Baker

    07/15/2022 11:40 AM

    Although I'm not particularly a fan of Trump (I did like his policies) I believe there was a conspiracy to denigrate Donald Trump and anyone who voted for him. I believe the Dems were involved.

  • Lisa Peterson

    07/15/2022 11:40 AM

    Dear Mike,
    It's obvious to any thinking soul that at this point in time that there's no longer equal application of the law. So, what can we average citizens can do about it, particularly when we have judges throwing the book at a 70 year old, never been arrested, cancer patient, grandma get 2 months in jail and a 500 dollar fine, for being in the Rotonda because the crowd caused her to get in there?, and yet, antifa/blm activities that have catastrophic destruction and death get no jail time? What are we to do when we peacefully show our displeasure is considered insurrection?

  • Terence O'Neil

    07/15/2022 11:27 AM

    Thank you Governor. I was so glad to see the name Ray Epps mentioned and to some extent, being questioned. I felt that the Ray Epps story was prematurely getting the "debunked" treatment, which has been a fairly effective strategy by the Dems. I can see with my own eyes and ears that there is considerably more to the Ray Epps story that exposes a strategy that successfully entrapped hundreds of peaceful Trump supporters. Grandma and Grandpa wandered into the Capital Building and are now under the prison, charged with ridiculous crimes.

  • George W. Trever

    07/15/2022 11:11 AM

    The Ray Epps story may be the key, since a coverup is obvious. I would not be surprised if Mr. Epps is a friend of Nancy Peloci. Why would Nancy refuse the National Guard help unless she already had some informants and helpers to ensure the Trump supporters would cause a fabricated riot?

  • Robert A. Funk

    07/15/2022 10:56 AM

    Governor,
    Thanks to you, Tucker and others who are digging for the truth in this. I believe God will cause the truth to come out and all who are guilty of lying about what happened and how it happened on January 6th, will be found out. Keep up the good work for you are being obedient to the will and power of God.

  • John B McDaniel

    07/15/2022 10:46 AM

    Absolutely False Flag. Especially when one considers that Nancy Pelosi the DC Mayor refused National Guard troops. It all makes sense.

  • Daphna Yurfest

    07/15/2022 10:11 AM

    Weird to say the least… since when does MSM and so called journalists protect a Trump supporter? Makes one wonder…

  • Sharon Faulkner

    07/15/2022 09:45 AM

    Epps is a liar.
    And remember how Ashli Babbitt's husband was threatened and harassed after her death? And the SCOTUS Justices? I look forward to that Fed plant being grilled.