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October 29, 2021
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In a world full of fake news, we on the HUCKABEE team are dismayed on the very rare occasions when we hear we might possibly have trafficked in it, however inadvertently. But then our dismay fades away when we find out we really were on the right track after all. This is one of those occasions.

A reader named Dobbin C. wrote to say, “Governor, you are really disappointing me. You continue to promulgate the fake news about the testing on beagles. You cannot in good conscience criticize the other side by sensationalizing fake news when you are doing it, too.”

Dobbin likely read the “fact”-check by POLITIFACT that rated the claim that Dr. Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) was funding certain cruel beagle studies “mostly false.” Guess it’s time to fact-check the “fact”-checkers again.

First, let’s go back to what we actually said: that it had been “reported” that while Dr. Fauci was running the NIAID, it gave $400,000 to fund the cruel experiments involving beagles and sandflies, and that some people were very upset about it. Here’s the quote from the morning newsletter for October 27: “Dr. Anthony Fauci is facing bipartisan fury and the hashtag @ArrestFauci is trending after it was reported that under his leadership, the NIH gave $400,000 in funding for medical experiments in which beagle puppies endured months of horrific, torturous treatment, then were killed.”

This is true. We did not engage in “sensationalizing” this story. We did not accuse Dr. Fauci of personally signing off on these experiments, as many probably did, nor did we even imply it. We didn’t even claim that the NIAID had funded these experiments, only that reports of it were making people mad. What we said was true.

Here is the story we linked to from FOX NEWS. They handled the story correctly as well, referring to “allegations” against the doctor and the Institute.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/arrestfauci-trends-twitter-doctor-faces-criticism-controversial-virus-research-testing-dogs

I do like that they also included this link to another Fauci story, though.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/arrestfauci-trends-twitter-doctor-faces-criticism-controversial-virus-research-testing-dogs

We linked to a list of other cruel animal studies that to our knowledge the “fact”-checkers have not addressed, and also to a related and correct story about PETA calling on Dr. Fauci to resign. This is true; they have. Again, we never accused Dr. Fauci or the NIAID of funding these studies.

Now, let’s look at what POLITIFACT said to refute the story. They reported that NIAID said it “did not fund one of the studies.” (“ONE OF” the studies?) Apparently that study was the one from the photograph that has been widely circulated, the one from Tunisia of the two anesthetized beagles with their heads enclosed so sandflies could eat them. (I’ms so sorry even to have to talk about something this disturbing, but that’s what it was.) However, there were two other studies –- one of which also involved the cutting of the dogs’ vocal cords and euthanizing them at the end –- that they say they DID fund. So we would say that POLITIFACT is really splitting hairs here.

According to POLITIFACT, “the NIAID said all animals used in NIH-funded research are protected by laws, regulations and policies that were followed in these studies.”

POLITIFACT goes on to quote some of the more sensationalized tweets about Dr. Fauci, terrible names he was called, etc. Again, we did not engage in any of that. They mention inaccuracies in “some reports and social media postings.” That wouldn’t be us, either.

While we were looking into this, we found something very interesting about dogs used in American medical research and are including it to provide some interesting historical perspective on the cruel beagle studies currently in the news. American tax dollars have apparently been funding extremely cruel experiments on dogs, particularly beagles, for a very long time. Researchers find that the beagle is a breed particularly suited to experimentation because of "its size and long life."

There's even such a thing as the "Beagle Data Congress," where in 2010, researchers discussed their “Beagle Dog Experiments” researching the effects of atomic radiation. An earlier project called "the Argonne Beagle Dog Experiments" was carried out on 5,000 very unlucky beagles from 1952 to 1991 and supported by grants from the Atomic Energy Commission. There were 15 "unique" (and uniquely horrifying) studies that involved blasting beagles with radiation and documenting the effects.

For example, 295 beagles were subjected to "continuous external co-60 gamma-ray exposure continued until death." Another study was called "Leukemogenesis: duration-of-life gamma irradiation of young adult beagles." And 298 beagles were given "gamma ray exposure during pregnancy," to learn the effects of radiation on the developing puppies. Good grief.

Poor Snoopy.

http://janus.northwestern.edu/nira/index.php/Beagle_Dog_Experiments

Here's more information on the Argonne National Laboratory. If you thought this place was in France, you were wrong. It's in Argonne, Illinois. It’s an American lab with, as far as we can tell, American funding.

http://janus.northwestern.edu/nira/index.php/Argonne_National_Laboratory

So when the NIAID says the dogs in their experiments are “protected by laws, regulations and policies that were followed in these studies,” what does that even mean? That it’s “policy” to cut dogs’ vocal cords when their cries of pain are too loud? Because that’s what they did. It’s time for their “policies” to change.

Anyway, we stand by everything we’ve had to say on this, and we actually appreciate the letter from Dobbin, misguided as it was, as it gave us an opportunity to clarify and update the actual story: Yes, the AIAID has had to admit that it does fund cruel research studies on dogs, just not the one in the picture.

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  • Bill Amberg

    10/30/2021 01:43 AM

    Hi Mike,

    I haven't looked into these particular studies, but it must be remembered that this kind of a study is never done without many, many pages of reasoning as to why it is important to animal or human medicine, and reviewed by government agencies made up of scientists in the particular field. Approval may take many months or years. And if a study with animals is approved by a funding agency, which many are not, the study would normally be initiated using "lower" animal species. Most animal studies begin with flies or mice, then progress to larger animals like rats and pigs, then maybe to dogs or cats, or primates if the study is related to human health. I know, it sounds pretty terrible sometimes, but to just try something on humans that has never been done before on another species sounds pretty bad also. Don't think that I am trying to defend the studies you mentioned because like I said I haven't looked into them, nor do I intend to, but some people don't understand what all goes into medical research that we are the beneficiaries of. And I hope I don't sound callous, but I worked in animal research for many years and have seen the good and the bad. Most animal researchers love animals, but sometimes tough choices are made for the benefit of us all.

  • Kathy Waite

    10/30/2021 01:31 AM

    Hi Governor! I've read so much about Fauci, I'm almost afraid to read more for fear I'll get sick. The beagles were bad enough, but I've read in more than one place he uses aborted baby brains, sewn onto rats to see what will happen. Maybe they'll get smart enough to attack him.

  • albert mccutcheon

    10/29/2021 11:45 PM

    I can see no reason for anyone to conduct these kind of test,what is the purpose,they should conduct these test on the people who conduct these test and on any politician who uses our tax dollars to fund this kind of cruel treatment to any helpless and defenceless animal but especially to man's best friend that loves unconditionally!!!!!!

  • Brenda R Hughes

    10/29/2021 11:24 PM

    Thank you for your dedication to getting it right. I appreciate that in a time that even so many "right-wing" or conservative news organizations and reporters resort to sensationalism in their headlines, that their articles do not support. Integrity is important, even crucial! We should not stoop to the tactics of the other side just to get views. I so appreciate that you don't! God bless you sir.

  • Carolyn Futter Davis

    10/29/2021 10:29 PM

    Thank you for this information. While it is hideous, it needs to be shared.

  • Paul Kern

    10/29/2021 09:57 PM

    What is sad is due to the rot in DC on both sides he willnever be held accountable. He and the others will still have stand and be judged at the great White Throne judgement. Totally evil like Dr. Mengele!

  • Mary Butcher

    10/29/2021 09:11 PM

    Governor Huckabee: I am outraged to hear about the cruel experiments on beagles. The fact that scientists would cut their vocal chords because their cries of pain were too loud is appalling! These experiments must stop immediately!

  • Debbie Eakman

    10/29/2021 07:19 PM

    I appreciate your articles and that you run down all the facts. Keep up the good work!

  • Gary Moorman

    10/29/2021 06:48 PM

    Mike, this may be off topic. But, for some unknown reason, it came to mind.
    Remember the Obama era Solyndra fiasco? How was Biden involved?

  • Andrea Diradourian

    10/29/2021 05:41 PM

    While I have had many a chuckle over PETA ideology (Arm Barn, really), I finally agree with them on 2 fronts. The PETA lady was on Tucker the other night asking for Fauci to be fired and to stop all animal experimentations ... I agree. Thanks Mike for keeping it real.